Date: Sat, 31 May 2003 00:02:52 +0200 (CEST)
From: "Robert M. Stockmann"
To: gabor
Subject: Re: [Dvdrtools-users] pioneer 105 once more :)
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On 30 May 2003, gabor wrote:
> > use this :
> >
> > cdrecord -v dev=1,0,0 driveropts=burnfree -dao knoppix.raw
> >
> > to check which driveropts you have use driveropts=help -checkdrive
> >
> > this is for cdrtools-2.0 with dvd-patch and cdrecord-prodvd
> what's the difference between cdrtools-with-dvdpath and cdrecord-prodvd?
>
> i know who made them, but what about the functionality?
>
> and how does dvdrecord compare to them?
Hi,
Well here come my experiences :
- cdrecord-prodvd can be downloaded from
ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
and is a binary only program. It also needs a environment key to run.
cdrecord-prodvd is based on cdrtools-2.0. This program also support DVD+R(W)
drives and should always work ok. In case of severe problems you should
also try cdrecord-prodvd.
- cdrtools-2.0-dvd.patch.gz is a patch which enables DVD-R(W) support
for/inside cdrtools-2.0.tar.gz. It is opensource and can be downloaded from
ftp://crashrecovery.org/pub/linux/cdrtools/
There's also adjusted RPM's and SRPM's for redhat 7.3, redhat 8.0 and
mandrake 9.1. The benefit is that all features inside cdrtools-2.0
present are to be untouched and keep working error-free.
The cdrtools-2.0-dvd.patch.gz only adds a extra DVD-R(W) driver into
the list of supported drivers , i.e. check with cdrecord driver=help :
mmc_mdvd generic SCSI-3/mmc DVD-R(W) driver
is added by applying this patch, and has no limitations in speed and udf/iso
size. The downside is that lowering the DVD burning speed doesn't work :
i.e. some-one inserts a 2x DVD-R burning recordable, adding the option
speed=1 won't work. AFAIK only cdrecord-prodvd supports this. The good part
is that all frontends based on cdrtools-2.0 should also work as expected
with cdrtools-2.0-dvd. So indeed i can use e.g. xcdroast to burn DVD-R(W)'s
using a GUI. download is on http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/rpms-a14.html
- dvdrecord / dvdrtools is a fork-off from cdrtools version 1.11a8 .
Its is opensource and can be downloaded from :
http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/dvdrtools/
http://www.nongnu.org/dvdrtools/
dvdrecord should also work ok. however its based on a older cdrtools
version which has the downside that certain CD-R(W) parts and drivers
are not really up to date. Hence its use is basicly as dvdrecord, i.e.
burn DVD-R(W)'s with dvdrecord and keep the cdrecord which was already
installed to burn CD-R(W)'s.
- cdrecord-dvdhack is again a patch/hack to add DVD-R(W) support into
cdrtools-2.0. But also here a extra binary is added next to cdrecord.
Its opensource and can be downloaded from :
http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~warly/files/cdrtools/
The patches are against cdrtools-1.11a versions.
Regards,
Robert
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>Well here come my experiences :
>- cdrecord-prodvd can be downloaded from
> ftp://ftp.berlios.de/pub/cdrecord/ProDVD/
> and is a binary only program. It also needs a environment key to run.
> cdrecord-prodvd is based on cdrtools-2.0. This program also support DVD+R(W)
> drives and should always work ok. In case of severe problems you should
> also try cdrecord-prodvd.
it is the only cdrecord version that really is maintained...
>- cdrtools-2.0-dvd.patch.gz is a patch which enables DVD-R(W) support
> for/inside cdrtools-2.0.tar.gz. It is opensource and can be downloaded from
> ftp://crashrecovery.org/pub/linux/cdrtools/
This patch violates the GPL (see GPL § 2 subclause c) and GPL Preamble,
subsection 6)
> is added by applying this patch, and has no limitations in speed and udf/iso
> size. The downside is that lowering the DVD burning speed doesn't work :
> i.e. some-one inserts a 2x DVD-R burning recordable, adding the option
> speed=1 won't work. AFAIK only cdrecord-prodvd supports this. The good part
> is that all frontends based on cdrtools-2.0 should also work as expected
> with cdrtools-2.0-dvd. So indeed i can use e.g. xcdroast to burn DVD-R(W)'s
> using a GUI. download is on http://www.xcdroast.org/xcdr098/rpms-a14.html
There is no guarantee that xcdroast will work as expected id you use this patch.
>- dvdrecord / dvdrtools is a fork-off from cdrtools version 1.11a8 .
> Its is opensource and can be downloaded from :
> http://savannah.nongnu.org/download/dvdrtools/
> http://www.nongnu.org/dvdrtools/
This patch violates the GPL (see GPL § 2 subclause c) and GPL Preamble,
subsection 6)
> dvdrecord should also work ok. however its based on a older cdrtools
> version which has the downside that certain CD-R(W) parts and drivers
> are not really up to date. Hence its use is basicly as dvdrecord, i.e.
> burn DVD-R(W)'s with dvdrecord and keep the cdrecord which was already
> installed to burn CD-R(W)'s.
It is known not to work correctly! It definitely breaks the official
functionality and many problems with drives different from Pioneer A03 have been
reported.
>- cdrecord-dvdhack is again a patch/hack to add DVD-R(W) support into
> cdrtools-2.0. But also here a extra binary is added next to cdrecord.
> Its opensource and can be downloaded from :
> http://people.mandrakesoft.com/~warly/files/cdrtools/
> The patches are against cdrtools-1.11a versions.
The only patch that does not violate the GPL!
Please note that all these patches will not work with a recent version of
cdrecord because the creators do not really maintain them.
As I am constantly fixing bugs and adding new features, there is a high
propability that using one of the programs above may give you far worse results
that with the original software.
Jörg
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